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In this interview between Bruno Fratus and Brett Hawke, the conversation begins with a light-hearted reunion, discussing how they haven't spoken as frequently as they used to. Brett remarks on his new look without glasses and their close coach-athlete relationship, which has evolved into a deep friendship, akin to a brotherhood. Bruno shares his admiration for Brett, having watched him race as a young swimmer and later being coached by him, highlighting the mutual respect and gratitude.

The discussion shifts to Bruno's recent decision not to compete in the Paris Olympics, driven by a need to prioritize his health, family, and overall well-being. Bruno describes the physical and mental toll of his rigorous training and injuries, particularly his shoulder issues, which have plagued him throughout his career. His wife and coach, Michelle, played a significant role in helping him realize it was time to step back and focus on recovery.

Brett praises Bruno's professionalism and deep understanding of the sport, noting Bruno's ability to learn and apply knowledge about injuries, nutrition, and performance enhancement. Bruno recounts his journey, including his early admiration for Brett, his struggles with injuries, and his determination to overcome them through hard work and dedication. He emphasizes the importance of sprint endurance and lactate tolerance in training for the 50 freestyle.

Bruno and Brett also discuss the dynamics of high-level competitive swimming, the intense rivalries, and the camaraderie among sprinters. They talk about the need for more excitement and trash talk in swimming to boost its appeal. Bruno shares his thoughts on potential world record breakers and his plans to be in Paris, not as a competitor but as a commentator for Brazilian television, expressing his love for the Olympic experience.

The conversation ends with hopes for future collaborations in clinics and coaching, passing on their extensive knowledge to the next generation of swimmers. Brett encourages listeners to reach out if they're interested in having Bruno and him conduct clinics worldwide. The interview concludes with light banter and predictions for upcoming swimming events, maintaining a hopeful and supportive tone for the future of the sport.

00:00 Hello Bruno Fratus
00:30 Discussion on Bruno's time in Brazil and Brett's new look without glasses
02:00 Bruno's admiration for Brett and their coach-athlete bond
04:00 Development of their friendship and mutual respect
06:00 Reasons for stepping back, health, and well-being
10:00 The emotional and physical toll of injuries
14:00 First injury and shoulder issues
18:00 Training intensity and overcoming limitations
22:00 Professionalism and understanding of performance
25:00 Rivalries and camaraderie among sprinters
28:00 The need for more excitement in the sport
31:00 Predictions and hopes for future record breakers
35:00 Bruno's upcoming role in Paris as a commentator
40:00 Hopes for collaboration in clinics and coaching
45:00 Discussion on future events and upcoming swimming trials
50:00 Personal reflections and maintaining fitness
54:00 Final thoughts and humorous predictions