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John Cooper is the lead singer and founding member of Skillet, one of the best-selling Christian rock groups of all time. He’s also a podcaster and author whose newest book is called “Wimpy, Weak, and Woke: How Truth Can Save America from Utopian Destruction.”

John sits down with Brandon to talk about the band’s rise; raising a family while touring the world; how he defines wokeness and why he feels compelled to speak out against it now; and his alternate vision for a brighter future.

He also talks about:
• His personal religious journey in the wake of his mother passing away from cancer
• Learning to treat his music career like a business
• How he and his wife divide responsibilities and stay in their lanes
• Why he warns Christian families not to send their kids to public school
• The Marxist origins of Critical Race Theory (CRT)
• The Black Lives Matter riots in his hometown of Kenosha, Wisconsin
• Woke ideology infiltrating Christian church leadership
• Why he believes more people than ever will be born again as Christians in 2024

TIMESTAMPS
00:00 - John's childhood
03:45 - Wrestling with faith after his mom's death
15:09 - Meeting his wife and future bandmate
18:29 - The rise of Skillet
28:58 - Being a present father while touring the world
34:48 - Should Christians send their kids to public school?
47:26 - Why speak up against woke ideology?
1:05:07 - The Marxist origins of wokeism
1:13:00 - Show sponsor, Podcast Pointman
1:14:00 - Have woke ideas infected Christian institutions?
1:27:00 - 3-2-1 Pivot segment
1:37:00 - Past, Present, Future segment

Books Mentioned:
• The Pursuit of God by A.W. Tozer
• The Unshakeable Kingdom and the Unchanging Person by E. Stanley Jones
• A Conflict of Visions by Thomas Sowell
• Red Rising by Pierce Brown

John’s charitable cause (100% of ad revenue donated here)
• Samaritan’s Purse, an evangelical organization providing disaster relief and humanitarian aid to people in physical need: https://www.samaritanspurse.org/

Connect with John:
• Buy his book the only place it’s available: https://johnlcooper.com/
• Hawk and Hatchet beard products: https://www.hawkandhatchet.com/
• His weekly podcast, Cooper Stuff: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast...

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• Podcast Pointman, the podcast agency that produces this show: https://www.podcastpointman.com/

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