Cameron Ford sits down with Dr. Stuart Hilliard to discuss their experiences in the dog training world. They reminisce about their early days in the Air Force and how they were inspired by Dr. Hilliard's book on Schutzhund training. They also talk about their mentors, including Godfrey Dildei and Bob Gailey, and the impact they had on their training methods. The conversation covers topics such as the importance of removing conflict in dog training, the use of hoses as training tools, and the influence of German Shepherd dogs and Belgian Malinois in their training journeys. Dr. Hilliard discusses his introduction to Malinois dogs and his involvement in importing and training them. He credits Helmut Riser for teaching him the theoretical structure of dog training and changing the language of dog training in English.